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Roeder-nowhere 2:07 Mon Sep 26
The Zaza factor

Barring a dramatic turnaround in performance levels & ability (unlike as he just doesn't look the part in the Prem) we'll not be buying this clown.
If reports are to be believed he needs to play between 15/20 games to trigger the 20 mil buy out clause. Unsure if this is true but if so he's got just 10 games left to prove himself and sakho/andy should both be back in 3/4 games. So what happens then? He rots in the reserves for the entire season or can we just get rid when we choose?
If it's the former I'd drop him now for Fletcher & only really use him as a complete last resort! One of the most pathetic run of performances i have seen from a WH striker. After his giraffe dance penalty miss at the Euro's we should have known this bloke was a joker!!

Sniper 2:11 Mon Sep 26
Re: The Zaza factor

I'd question whether any of the forwards we have are suitable to being a lone front man with the exception of Carroll. Perhaps having some support might help him a little

Sydney_Iron 2:13 Mon Sep 26
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Would rather Zsa Zsa Gábor!

collyrob 2:14 Mon Sep 26
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Benteke should have been our main target.

eusebiovic 2:17 Mon Sep 26
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He's a Bag O'Shite

Get rid along with Calleri and Tore

Rubbish

J.Riddle 2:19 Mon Sep 26
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Should send Zaza back to Hector.

gank 2:19 Mon Sep 26
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The problem isn't whether players are 'shit' or not, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. Strikers need the formation and tactics played to their strengths in order to convert a performance into goals.

Carroll as lone striker works well as long as there's a nippy player who can finish playing off him. We set up for that right at the start of the season, then when Carroll was removed by circumstances, we kept it the same! Madness from Bilic, and all he's done is rotate Calleiri, Zaza and Fletcher into the gap Carroll has left. Totally different players. Sakho will be there too if he's back before Carroll.

It seems obvious to most people that the formation we're using in attack will be fine when Carroll is back as long as he has the right people around him too, but until then, choose your strikers based upon the opponent and then for fuck's sake sort the formation, and the tactics, out around who you've got there.

cholo 2:19 Mon Sep 26
Re: The Zaza factor

He can't play the holding game, might do ok alongside someone who can like Carroll, I can't see them ever lining up together.

El Scorchio 2:46 Mon Sep 26
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I can't criticise him too much for yesterday.

Zero fucking service. Put himself about as best he could though.

He's not going to win headers against Van Dijk and Fonte from long balls pumped into the box because the creative players couldn't unlock a suitcase between them.

Chigwell 2:54 Mon Sep 26
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For heaven's sake Carroll has shown time and again that he is not the answer to our impotent forward line-up. It was not bad luck that he got injured: injury is his default position.

Infidel 3:08 Mon Sep 26
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gank is talking a lot of sense.

Older readers will remember the change in our fortunes in 2002/3 when we started playing Les Ferdinand up front with Defoe. It worked a treat, with Defoe feeding off Ferdinand's knock downs.

But if you had taken Defoe away and left Ferdinand up on his own it would not have worked.

Carroll is a very similar player to Les Ferdinand - he wins a lot of balls pumped up to him but he needs to lay it off to a nippy striker alongside him.

In fact what's happened is that not only do we not have that second striker we have also replaced Carroll with a much less effective lone striker in Zaza.

The balls pumped up to Zaza are coming straight back at us because his first touch is so poor. (Whatever AC's faults are he doesn't have that problem.)

With our current squad and injuries I think a lone front man is just not possible.

Bilic needs to take a long hard look at the squad and figure out how we can make an effective attacking force out of the players we have. To my knowledge we didn't have a single shot on target yesterday against Southampton, which is absolutely shameful at home to Southampton.

zico 3:29 Mon Sep 26
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Zaza put himself about but he didn't make the right runs to create space for himself or others. When Sakho plays and is on form and mentally right he can play that lone striker role because he makes a right pest of himself and runs into the channels making space for others. Carroll as others have said needs someone getting beyond him and around him to get on his knock downs. In fact a Carroll and Valencia pairing was never tried as far as I can remember but Valencia was certainly at his best when pairing up alongside Sakho.

You can have a shorter player up top on their own but you either need a Defoe who has that knack with positional sense and is a fantastic finisher or you need someone like Shane Long who won't score you 20 goals a season but he will make the runs to open up opportunities for a Payet or Lanzini.

Probably doesn't help Zaza knowing that he was probably 6th or 7th choice if summer rumours are to be believed.

claret on my shirt 3:33 Mon Sep 26
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I thought he did ok yesterday, first half he had some really good touches but he had almost zero service apart from high balls against tw huge centre backs. He certainly put the effort in yesterday i thought.

I thought Payet's attitude yesterday was very poor, everyone else tried even if they playes shit, he on a number of times did not try.

Eerie Descent 3:36 Mon Sep 26
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He's not shit, as such, he's just not very good.

We won't be buying him.



SURELY?

Any Old Iron 3:46 Mon Sep 26
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More Haha, than Zaza.

Bungo 3:56 Mon Sep 26
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One thing in his favour yesterday (from where I sit anyway), is that he appeared to be keen to shoot even if the results weren't great.

This isn't always the case even with some other strikers who appear to be nervous to shoot, and pass it on to someone else if possible.

Hammers1993 4:29 Mon Sep 26
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Odd deal to make in the first place. What happens if 4 games before his "trigger clause" kicks in he scores in all 4, do we forget about these diabolical performances he has put in and sign him?

Such a strange deal to make.

Jasnik 5:04 Mon Sep 26
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Zaza was trying at the beginning but issue was he had no support .

One of our best times was when Sakho and Valencia were playing and both pressuring the front so when one pressed and got the ball the other was there to pick up the pieces yesterday , if he got something it went straight to another defender to pick up.

Defense not linking with midfield not linking with attack.

peroni 5:11 Mon Sep 26
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I think we're being too hard on him and thought he was alright first half yesterday.

All the eyties I speak to over here say he's a good player. He needs a bit more time to settle and get off the mark.

chelmsfordhammer 5:15 Mon Sep 26
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I've got no idea whether he's good or not yet as our midfield haven't actually created anything near a chance for him. The blokes feeding os scraps and aimless balls pumped into the box. I'll wait and see what he's like when our midfield finally do their job and give him something to get on the end of.

SullyHammer 5:34 Mon Sep 26
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What do the Italian Hammers think of him?

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